blade 450 for beginners

ollie10 · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject: blade 450 for beginners

i would like some advise please , have been using a co ax heli , now wanting to upsize , some of the shops in Australia tell me to use a small heli to start with eg blade sr 120 , saying they are easy to learn on , and some say to go for a 400 series size better to learn on , i have been looking at the blade 450 , ,,, dont have to use the 3d to start with , looked at different video's ,, practice makes perfect ... training gear is a must .. "Help " advise please ..

admiral · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject:

Hi Ollie10,

I would suggest a Blade SR120 or maybe the new MCP X the reason is they will take a lot more punishment, but that really depends on the person, I have a friend who learned on a Trex 450 then graduated to 600 but I think that is rare.

But if your not starting on a co-axial start on a Flight SIM first you need to learn the hand/eye co-ordination first, a co-axial will let you start without a SIM but to advance a SIM is the answer it saves you a heap in repair costs.
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chopper54 · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:01 pm Post subject: post subject

Hi Ollie10,
i dont know about the mcx-p but i do know the 120sr is a nice lttle heli because i have two. it flies nice and stable but not as easy as you might expect. its tough but easy and cheap to repair when needed and parts are available every where. i have heard it said by some that a 450 is the smallest heli a learner should start with. i think start smaller and see how you get on. if you love it you can step up. if you dont you wont have wasted too much money. you will love though. its so addictive. Cool

tombo242 · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:14 am Post subject:

Hi Ollie10,

Go for the 450, the smaller they are the harder they are to fly. I jumped from an indoor co-axial to a 450 and have never regretted it. As you say keep off the 3D and you'll be fine as long as you follow Radds Course. Take it easy and don't rush the stages, it can be done without crashing, but we all will at some time.

Tom.
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Dumb Thumbs · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:06 am Post subject:

Going from a Coaix to a 450 collective pitch heli is a big step, but can be done. Just depends on how much $$ you have to spend making repairs while you learn to fly it.
The Blade mCP X is way to fast for anyone who hasn't flown a C.P. heli before. Forget that.
The Blade 120 SR would be my choice for the next heli in the learning curve. Fast enough to be fun, but can take a beating and is cheap to repair.
Blade 400 is another option, but the servos & gyro leave something to be desired from what I understand.
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Crashagain · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:03 pm Post subject:

Get the 450. All the cool people have one, don't you want to be cool???
As Tom said, you can go right to a 450, I did and have no regrets. I think moving from one heli to another a little bigger is a waste of money. The little heli's can be twitchy and you can only fly them indoors. The 450 can be tamed way down to be a very stable beginner heli..
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chopper54 · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:28 am Post subject: post subject

i think thats what boxing judges would consider to be a split decision.

admiral · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:00 am Post subject:

No Chopper,

Its food for thought, there is no decision, only Ollie10 can make the decision, we have just given him alternative views and both those views are correct for the person that gave them, Ollie must sort out what is going to work for him.
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tombo242 · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:29 am Post subject:

+1 on that Admiral.

Tom.
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Scott · Extreme 3D Joined: 11 Nov 2010 Posts: 340

My 1`st heli was a 30 size nitro, & I learned how to repair it
real quick. Training gear made from dowel-rods & wiffle-balls.
I did learn how to hover with it tho.
My advice Ollie, is to go with something durable & cheap.
You can always move up from there.
Scott

nick_onelove · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:19 pm Post subject:

Wow the varying advice from all the big-shots in here is dizzying lol. All I can tell you is my experience. I've been totally doing the baby steps thing, people say it isn't necessary, that you could start out with a 450 as your first; and that's undoubtedly true. But I wanted a collection of helis anyway so I got the mCX2, the CX3, the mCX Tandem Rescue, RealFlight G5.5, the mSR, the 120 SR, the mCP X, and soon the 450 3D (whenever they release it, I'm going CRAZY!). In that order.

That may seem excessive, because it is. But on the other hand the only parts I've ever had to replace because of crashes were a tail motor for the mSR and a few swash linkages for the mCP X. It was certainly a new challenge stepping up to the twitchy mCP X as my first CP, but I was completely prepared thanks to the mSR and 120 SR.

If I sound like a crazy person right now and you do want to jump straight to a CP, I can't recommend a sim highly enough. You should get one either way, though.

tombo242 · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:13 am Post subject:

+1 on that Nick,

Best advise is "Get a Sim!"

You can manage without, but after many years flying I still like to spend time on my sims.

Tom.
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Its a very good place to start. I bought a blade 400 and crashed it first time out, spent $$ and loads of time and still not flying properly after the repair, so I bought a cx3 and am flying away, will get my wings using that and then may even decide to be a blade sr 120, as an intermediate step passing the cx3 to my daughter. The sim (phoenix) is good but can't replace the real thing [doesn't hurt as much on the pocket when crash the realthing].

Hawzzy · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:47 am Post subject:

I will give you my advice just to confuse you more.

Heres my story.....

Ive always had an RC something...cars, trucks, boats, etc...I started into helis with a 3ch co-ax micro heli...flew it, modified it, broke it repaired it...rinse and repeat...its what got me interested and addicted.

I read EVERYTHING i could find about RC helis....

I got a 4ch co-ax hobby grade heli (indoor micro) learned orientation etc outgrew it quickly.

Then i took the mother of all leaps and went straight for the MCPX.......it was lower initial cost than 450...the parts are WAY cheaper...it will cause a lot LESS damage than a 400/450 size to itself or others in a crash...and it can be flown INDOORS.

Now I DONT have a sim yet...ive NEVER flown single rotor helis at all before, nevermind a CP... BUT i was able to hover that little beast VERY quickly after getting it!!!!

Heres the thing...it is WAY TOOOOOOO FAST...PERIOD!!! It only takes a split second for that thing to be gone in any direction you point it in!!! VERY STABLE IN HOVER...the 3 axis gyro does a GREAT job...but i wish i had something a little slower to start practicing other orientaions other than tail in hovering...as soon as i try to fly circuits or figure 8's i lose it!!!!

Definately some sim time and a little more patience are in order for me!!

Just my 2 cents worth!!!

Tye
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asta · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: Blade 450 for beginners?

Hi mate,
I like you have recently moved on from a small indoors heli (the msr) and have been looking for something higher spec. My advice is go for a nice mcp x and a quality sim. Don't repeat my mistakes! Its true YOU CAN learn, as I did, on a blade 450, but it isn't cheap and frankly isnt necessary. The cp x has all of the performance, but if you crash you aren't automatically landed with downtime and a repair bill, which i can guarantee will happen at least once if you try to learn on the 450.
Hope this helps Smile

oh and also, put in the hours on the sim- its well worth it!!