clearview/Dynam simulator

magyarbacsi · Extreme 3D Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 99 Location: seattle

I recently purchased the Clearview sim and bought the Dynam USB 6ch controller.Did not go well.
ClearView installed fine on my brand new HP NoteBook withe the latest programs. The graphics are somewhat funny. I had several mid air collisions with a unknown unseen objects. I will fly above an object and have all kinds of air between, yet I collide with whatever. It is the same with other objects in the field. Have to maintain about an inch above. Will see what can be done about that.

The Dynam $13. controller? The computer accepted it as per instructions, but could not get the rudder to work to the right. Now and then it would work, but all the way lefyt or right to the end point, no transition inbetween. Got some electronic cleaner, sprayed the pots and stil the same.

Ordered a Futaba compliant USB, u5 cable from Tony's RC at $9 lpus a few bucks for s&h and will see what happens. Will b e able to use my 6ch radio that I know works. Maybe the graphics will improve. I could not fly the choppers without rudder. The planes were fine as I ised mainly ailerons.

Anyone out there have similar issue with ClearView?
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celticveil · Extreme 3D Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 279

What verson of windows are you running? Many sims have troubles on vista or win 7. Google your version of flight sim and look for any updates or patches. I had to do that for FMS to work properly.

As far as transmitter goes, I don't have any answers. I ordered one but it won't be in for 2 more days.
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pjdog · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:45 am Post subject:

Tombo242 is an expert with ClearView. I have clearview and have the Visa operating system. Works great.

Maybe Tom will be along soon and get you fixed up.

Jack

magyarbacsi · Extreme 3D Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 99 Location: seattle

Yep, it is Window 7. I first tried to use the Dynam with the multitude of downloads as suggested. But when I tried to calibrate the cheap controller, the rudder gave me problems. The rudder was erratic and worked at times to where it was full left or right, but no gradual transition from the endpoints. The it was just center or full left. Used contact cleaner and worked the lever rapidly and I got some response, but again full endpoint or center.

The clearview went ok and when calibrating the same control I had the same problems. So I will fault the controller. Will see how the cables and my Futaba will work. After I ordered the cable I saw another set on ebay that is compliant with Futaba, JR and another brand, with all the adapters, for $5. plus change with shipping. I ordered that too just out of curiosity to seeif it works. If so, I'll post the results. I'll get a hold of Clearview on chat and see how I can adjust the graphics. By the way, I had issues with their program, sent an email and they immediately responded with instructions that was helpful. Good response and were helpful. I can use the flight sim this way just have to keep models clear of any obstructions. No problem on the ground when taking of or landing, just when setting up for approach to land, I hit air and parts fly. Sort of funny' only with planes. The helis I manage to hit obstacles I can see just can't avoid.
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admiral · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:36 am Post subject:

Hi magyarbacsi,

Try disconnecting the controller and flying it from the keyboard, that will give you an indication if the problem is in the program or the controller.

I have used Clearview with Windows XP and now use it with Windows 7 and have never had any problems.
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celticveil · Extreme 3D Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 279

Could also be a graphics card issue. What kind of card do you use? I am mostly familiar with the ATI series. You should try to upgrade the driver if it is available on the brand's homepage. Most graphics card companies produce many updates for their products and in my experience this has solved countless graphics issues in the past. I even overclocked the GPU on my old laptop after an upgrade to boost performance even higher, though I do not recommend this for most people as it is easy to burn the GPU out, then you're in a world of hurt.
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tombo242 · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:08 am Post subject:

Hi magyarbacsi,

What you don't say is whether or not the controller callibrated correctly in the windows game controller section. It is essential that you callibrate it in windows as a 'PPM' controller before trying to run it with ClearView. There should be no problems with the current ClearView in Vista or Win 7 if your Dynam is first calibrated as a 'PPM' controller.

Tom.
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ferretmaster · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:25 am Post subject:

I am flying the Dynam 6 channel too and Windows 7 with my Clearview....no problems (other than operator skill) at all. Been working great out of the box and for at least a year or so of constant use.
Ditto the PPM controler info from Tombo !
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celticveil · Extreme 3D Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 279

The dynam controllers seem to have a lot of mixed (mostly negative) review. I read quite a few posts about the racon 6ch having wires not even soldered in place, thereby completely nullifying the adjustment knobs. This could also be a possibility with their computer dummy transmitter as well. If programming adjustments in windows fails to solve the problem, I would open the back up and ensure everything is where its supposed to be.
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magyarbacsi · Extreme 3D Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 99 Location: seattle

Tombo, all the control channels, including the throttle worked except for the rudder. I assigned the channels as indicated by the sliding bars that worked with that stick movement. The rudder would not calibrate correctly, i.e. the rudder showed as I described, full left or right, but it varied as I could center the slide indicator once in a while, then I could not another time. When flying planes and have the close up window displayed, I could at times see the rudder work both ways but still could not get a gradual input. Then later beck to only the left rudder input worked. In order for me to be able to use the controller as is I had to click on the" Accept" button or "Cancel" and try over and over to re callibtate and get the same result.

Tough to fly copters without tail input and when it did respond it acted like a full rudder throw and the chopper just spun till I wiggled the stick and it would stop. At this point, I am willing to bet it is the rudder channel in the controller.

The only reason I can fly the planes is that the aileron channel works and if I had to re position the plane on the ground I would let it spin left and stop when it was properly oriented for a take-off. Oddly enough, the Apache will turn using just the aileron, flies almost like a plane. The Coast Guard twin rotor was easy enough to handle without rudder. Will see soon enough as my cables should arrive in a few days.
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celticveil · Extreme 3D Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 279

I would seriously check the connections then, sounds like a loose or faulty wire to me.

Have you ever dropped this controller?
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tombo242 · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:21 am Post subject:

Hi magyarbacsi,

Read your post with care - but still cannot see whether you have calibrated the controller as a 'PPM' in windows.

I also write on the Clearview forum (you could try the support there, probably get me though) and very few people have problems with the Dyman controller, in fact it is the one most recommended by the members. Almost of the problems are cured when the correct Windows calibration is carried out. My own controller will sometimes give odd effects in Clearview, reprogramming in Windows to 'PPM' will fix it every time. Mine comes from the same stable as the Dynam - just has a different label to it.

Tom.
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magyarbacsi · Extreme 3D Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 99 Location: seattle

Tombo, yes, I did calibrated, tried, as I said the rudder would not calibrate, the other functions worked fine.

I 've noticed that some of the Dynam controlers come with a disc. I did not get one with mine. Is that something I need for the controler to function or is that just the Dynam simulator program. This was a $13 kit and some I see sell for twice that. So are there two different kits or same one with a higher price?
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tombo242 · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:52 am Post subject:

Hi magyarbacsi,

The disc is usually a copy of FMS (a now unsupported and poor free RC simulator). To my knowlege there are no setups for the controller provided. (I could be wrong there.) It does sound as if you have one of the rare controller problems. However, if the controller sets up in windows it must work with clearview, if it will not set up in windows then you do have a faulty controller.

As far as I know there is not a different price level on the Dynam controllers the sellers price them as they wish. Ebay has to be used with care, there are some good bargains and some rip-offs. It is possible that your controller has already been returned as unservicable and then resold to you.

Tom.
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magyarbacsi · Extreme 3D Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 99 Location: seattle

Will have it working soon as I get the usb Futaba cables.I do have another question. if I use the preprogrammed 6ex for one of my real models, will the simulated heli in Clearview react to the programmed throttle/pitch curve? And if I calibrate the Tx to run Clearview, will that reprogram my existing programs in the Futaba? I have two models programmed now in the Tx to match my skill with CP copters. Shall I just select model 3 with the factory settings and use that when using the simulator.

Not happy with Clearview still as when flying planes, I hit unseen objects in mid air that are not there. I mentioned this to Clearview and they have not made suggestions.If I fly near and above a structure with plenty of air space, model collides as if there was an extended invisible surface. I checked Phoenix sim demo just to compare, what a world of difference, in price too, but man, looks so real. Tempting
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