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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:33 pm
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Hi!

I flew my Esky Belt CP V2 yesterday for the first time and man this is really a great helicopter. However, the stock battery gives to short flight time so I wonder if someone could recommend a good upgrade battery?

Also, any tip on good hobbyshops in Europe that have spare and upgrade parts for this heli?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:20 pm
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If you want a good battery then look for a higher "C" rating.
I would run a 2200mah with at least a 35C rating. Hyperion makes a good pack, but there are cheaper packs around. Zippy's, Blue Lipo, Sky Lipo to name a couple. Can't help you with upgrades, I am in the states..
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:12 pm
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I have got an Esky Belt CP V2 too as my first 'training' heli. I used to buy a lot of spare parts (I crashed a lot of time) from ebay (delivered from HongKong or China). Prices are reasonably good on ebay.

I use Turnigy 2200mAH, 20C from HobbyKing. They are good and cheap. They have a warehouse in Europe too so you can get them delivered quickly.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=8932
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:47 pm
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If you want a good battery then look for a higher "C" rating.


Honest question ... Why would a higher C rating give better flight time ? I have various C rating packs and the decider on flight time is the capacity - mA's
C rating surely denotes charge rates and how high a discharge rate ie motor power it can handle.

To get longer run time is to stay with similar or higher C rating as original battery but get a higher mA capacity.

There are plenty of packs on ebay with greater capacity and similar gram weight to OEM supplied .... for my 450 - I bought a pair of 2800mA 3S packs that each were lighter by 20gr to the original 2100mA pack supplied with the 450.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:03 pm
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I think Crash was saying that the higher C rating woud be a better battery, not that it would give more flight time. In general this is true, the high C ratings have to be made to a better standard than the low ones. Unfortunately, (but not necessarily) this often leads to greater weight.

Apart from that I can only agree, if the weight is the same - or less and the C rating equal or better - then more mAh will give more flight time.

However, usually the increased capacity results in increased weight and in extremes can even reduce flight times. If you find a battery with reduced weight then you are very lucky indeed.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:37 am
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Thanks Tom for the help on that.
I guess I need to specify what the C rating is for, instead of assuming everyone knows....
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:18 pm
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Hmm, I don't see where you said it would give better flight time, maybe my eyes are going bad alla sudden... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:35 pm
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Trouble wrote:
Hmm, I don't see where you said it would give better flight time, maybe my eyes are going bad alla sudden... Rolling Eyes


Ok ... it's the implied .... original post was talking about short flight times and wanted better.
Reply said get a better "c" rating battery ... which without qualification implies answering the OP's request.

I have to apologise as I'm one of those guys who reads posts and imagines a complete numbskull newbie reading it. When I catch one that a newbie could misinterpret ... I sometimes ask the question to clarify the data to help less informed understand what it is. Bit of a "Community Service !" Wink Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:43 pm
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Back to original post and flight times ..........

I've come to conclusion that most models are supplied with packs that are calculated to give 5 - 8min flight times. Longer at 10min with careful use of throttle. Having fixed wing and Heli ... this seems to be born out with supplied packs I have.

I have found that one area that makes a big difference to actual flight time is friction and set-up. On my 450 - if I tighten up the tail drive belt just a tad too much - the flight time drops significantly due to the effort to now drive the tail. If main gear is dry and doesn't get it's miniscule drop of lube ... or regularly cleaned of the crud that gets blown around when in use .. flight time can reduce.

There is another matter - the original post doesn't actually say what the flight time is that he's getting ... maybe he's getting as designed ...

My 450 on spec'd pack is giving me about 7 - 8mins ... my replacement packs about 9+ .... To be honest - after 4 - 5 I land anyway as concentration is starting to suffer ... that's if I'm lucky to be up that long !! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:02 pm
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if more flight time is the requirement the simple answer is to use the most suitable size and power for your particular model and buy more of em.
at least then your motor gets a chance to cool off while you change batteries. i use six overlander 2200 mah 25c. i then fly for 5 and a half minutes to the bleeper and land. this leaves the batteries at approx 3.8-3.9 per cell ready to recharge straight away after cooling or for storage till next time i need them.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:59 pm
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chopper54 wrote:
if more flight time is the requirement the simple answer is to use the most suitable size and power for your particular model and buy more of em.
at least then your motor gets a chance to cool off while you change batteries. i use six overlander 2200 mah 25c. i then fly for 5 and a half minutes to the bleeper and land. this leaves the batteries at approx 3.8-3.9 per cell ready to recharge straight away after cooling or for storage till next time i need them.

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If I could risk asking a possibly stupid question....I ordered and extra battery with my CP V2 Esky. Is there any reason why I couldn't mount this and wire it in parallel to the existing battery to get extended flight time? It should even work fine on the charger. Sure the added weight may feel a little sluggish, but for an intermediate flier, like myself, I probably wouldn't notice until I started doing some pretty aggressive maneuvers.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:28 am
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RTFM wrote:
....I ordered and extra battery with my CP V2 Esky. Is there any reason why I couldn't mount this and wire it in parallel to the existing battery to get extended flight time? It should even work fine on the charger.


It will work as a battery but the flight time will not double and your motor stands a good chance of burning out. Watch the heat if you try this.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:34 am
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Hi RTFM,
I dont think it would do many favours for the c of g either. The heli would be way too nose heavy and fly like a brick. Personally i would not do it. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:38 am
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chopper54 wrote:
Hi RTFM,
I dont think it would do many favours for the c of g either. The heli would be way too nose heavy and fly like a brick. Personally i would not do it. Cool


Thanks...the more I thought about it the dumber it sounded.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:21 am
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I find a battery lasts for 5~7 minutes for each fligth is good enough for me. Longer than that I tend to loose concentration. A battery change will help to have a 'mental break'.

This is men's "thing". Long lasting is good but too long is no fun. Wink
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