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sthilder Charging

Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 2 Location: CHINA
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:23 pm
Post subject: Five tips-----how to maximize your battery performance |
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Break In New Batteries
New batteries come in a discharged condition and must be fully charged before use. It is recommended that you fully charge and discharge the new battery two to four times to allow it to reach its maximum rated capacity.
Prevent the Memory Effect
Keep the battery healthy by fully charging and then fully discharging it at least once every two to three weeks. Exceptions to the rule are Li-Ion batteries which do not suffer from the memory effect.
Keep the Batteries Clean
it's a good idea to clean dirty battery contacts with a cotton swab and alcohol. This helps maintain a good connection between the battery and the portable device.
Exercise the Battery
Do not leave the battery dormant for long periods of time. We recommend using the battery at least once every two to three weeks. If a battery has not been used for a long period of time, perform the new battery break in procedure described above.
Battery Storage
if you don't plan on using the battery for a month or more, we recommend storing it in a clean, dry, cool place away from heat and metal objects. NiCad, NiMH and Li-Ion batteries will self-discharge during storage; remember to break them in before use. Sealed Lead Acid (SLA) batteries must be kept at full charge during storage. This is usually achieved by using special trickle chargers. If you do not have a trickle charger, do not attempt to store SLA batteries for more than three months. |
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silhouette015 Site Admin


Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 581 Location: Thailand
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:54 pm
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Fantastic info thank you very much
Where better to get info on li-po batteries than the professional guys who sell them.  |
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vertigo Hopping Maniac


Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 24
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:18 pm
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sthilder,
You mentioned memory effect. Can you explain what this is and what its effects are? I have heard the term many times but never caught its meaning.
Thank you in advance.  |
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sthilder Charging

Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 2 Location: CHINA
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:23 am
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vertigo wrote: | sthilder,
You mentioned memory effect. Can you explain what this is and what its effects are? I have heard the term many times but never caught its meaning.
Thank you in advance.  |
What people nowadays call memory effect is a combination of two things.
One - cell aging. Batteries don't last forever. The older they get, the less capacity they have. Live with it.
Two - "voltage depression". Voltage depression is a problem with NiCd batteries and, according to some sources, also with NiMH, and it doesn't affect the battery capacity much at all. Rather, the battery voltage drops unusually quickly as it discharges. Gadgets that monitor their battery voltage therefore think the battery's flat earlier than they should. There may be lots of capacity left at the slightly depressed voltage, but the gadget doesn't know that and flashes its "low battery" warning.
Fully discharging cells cures voltage depression, but if you fully discharge a whole battery then the stronger cells in the battery will "reverse" the weaker ones. The weaker ones go flat first, and then get charged backwards by the others. This is very bad for the weaker cells, and will kill a battery pack quick smart. So don't do it. |
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jordy Hover Master


Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 17
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:19 am
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Fastastic we have a pro in the house!
sthilder, I was wondering if it's ok to always be charging a lipo battery at the max charge rate that the pack says. My friend says it's bad to do so. Actually, I made a post about it here. |
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lanchester Hover Master

Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 11 Location: A residential area :)
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Five tips-----how to maximize your battery performance |
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sthilder wrote: |
Prevent the Memory Effect
Keep the battery healthy by fully charging and then fully discharging it at least once every two to three weeks. Exceptions to the rule are Li-Ion batteries which do not suffer from the memory effect.
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Does that mean that all li-Ion batteries do not suffer from the memory effect? And are Li-Ion and Li-Poly batteries the same thing?
You touched on Ni-Mh a few times which is all cool Just curious though, does anybody still use NiMH batteries and are there any NiMh packs for EP helicopters and are they cheaper than Li-Poly? Opps turns out to be quite a lot of questions.  |
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lanchester Hover Master

Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 11 Location: A residential area :)
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:48 pm
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also, what kind of batteries do you sell? I couldn't tell from your website weather you only sell in bulk or also piece by piece.  |
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szhilder Hover Master

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:07 pm
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jordy wrote: | Fastastic we have a pro in the house!
sthilder, I was wondering if it's ok to always be charging a lipo battery at the max charge rate that the pack says. My friend says it's bad to do so. Actually, I made a post about it here. |
As Li-polymer battreis, It is good for fully charged and long cycle life of batterys . |
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szhilder Hover Master

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:10 pm
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jordy wrote: | Fastastic we have a pro in the house!
sthilder, I was wondering if it's ok to always be charging a lipo battery at the max charge rate that the pack says. My friend says it's bad to do so. Actually, I made a post about it here. |
For Li-polymer battreis, Fully charged is good for keeping the batteries into long cycle life . |
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szhilder Hover Master

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:52 pm
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Well,I have to focus on the issue: Li-polymer battries should be "fully charged " but not "over charged"
Over charged just would declines the performance of batteries |
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szhilder Hover Master

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Five tips-----how to maximize your battery performance |
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[quote="lanchester]
Does that mean that all li-Ion batteries do not suffer from the memory effect? And are Li-Ion and Li-Poly batteries the same thing?
You touched on Ni-Mh a few times which is all cool Just curious though, does anybody still use NiMH batteries and are there any NiMh packs for EP helicopters and are they cheaper than Li-Poly? Opps turns out to be quite a lot of questions. [/quote]
All li-Ion batteries do not suffer from the memory effect. Li-Ion and Li-Poly batteries are totally different things.
The lithium-polymer differentiates itself from conventional battery systems in the type of electrolyte used. This electrolyte resembles a plastic-like film that does not conduct electricity but allows ions exchange.
Of course ,now there are also somebody use NiMH batteries ,especially in RC Models such as some min indoor airplane and as you know,they have cheaper price than Li-Poly.But Li-poly has less weight and can supply your RC Model with twice flight time. |
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szhilder Hover Master

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:07 pm
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lanchester wrote: | also, what kind of batteries do you sell? I couldn't tell from your website weather you only sell in bulk or also piece by piece.  |
Our products include Primary lithium batteries, Li ion & polymer batteries, High rate li polymer battery packs, Chargers and charger kits, etc.
Here below is our most popular battery models:
(1)High rate li-polymer battery packs(8C,10C, for mini helicopter & park flyer )
(2)High rate li-polymer battery packs(12C,15C, for outdoor helicopter & airplanes)
(3)High rate li-polymer battery packs(15C,20C, for 3D & large airplane)
800mah, 8C & 15C & 20C
1250mah, 8C & 15C
1800mah, 8C & 15C
2100mah, 10C & 15C & 20C
3200mah, 12C & 15C & 20C
Well,we are a manufacture ,not a retailer of a wholsale ,so our website just give some basical battries and not show piece by piece with price.If you are interested in,you can add my msn ([url]st_valley@hotmail.com[/url]) and ask me . |
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mikblizz Hover Master


Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:35 pm
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Hi szhilder,
Is it possible to charge these li-po batterys in more than 1C preferably in 2C
Quote: | 800mah, 8C & 15C & 20C
1250mah, 8C & 15C
1800mah, 8C & 15C
2100mah, 10C & 15C & 20C
3200mah, 12C & 15C & 20C |
It is a really slow internet line from sweden to your site, can you post more info like weight and size  |
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szhilder Hover Master

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:29 pm
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Hi,thank for your interesting in our products.
I try to past into the table including product model ,capacitor,voltage and dimension info but it failed to keep the original document editor pattern.
So the below info seems to be messy. Don't mind.
Model Voltage Capacity Dimension (mm)
(V) (mAh) (T * W *L)
Discharge rate: 8C continuous, 10C burst
PT2000HP8C_2S 7.4 2000 15 * 34 * 96
PT2000HP8C_3S 11.1 22.5 * 34 * 96
PT2000HP8C_4S 14.8 30 * 34 * 96
PT2500HP8C_2S 7.4 2500 14 * 35 * 135
PT2500HP8C_3S 11.1 21 * 35 * 135
Discharge rate: 12C continuous, 15C burst
PT1300HP12C_2S 7.4 1250 16 * 35 * 60
PT1300HP12C_3S 11.1 24 * 35 * 60
PT1550HP12C_2S 7.4 1500 15 * 34 * 80
PT1550HP12C_3S 11.1 22.5 * 34 * 80
PT1900HP12C_2S 7.4 1900 15 * 34 * 96
PT1900HP12C_3S 11.1 22.5 * 34 * 96
PT2200HP12C_2S 7.4 2200 17 * 34 * 96
PT2200HP12C_3S 11.1 25.5 * 34 * 96
PT2200HP12C_4S 14.8 34 * 34 * 96
Discharge rate: 15C continuous, 20C burst
PT1800HP15C_2S 7.4 1800 15 * 34 * 96
PT1800HP15C_3S 11.1 22.5 * 34 * 96
PT1300HP15C_2S 7.4 2100 17 * 34 * 96
PT2100HP15C_3S 11.1 25.5 * 34 * 96
PT2100HP15C_4S 14.8 34 * 34 * 96
Discharge rate: 20C continuous, 25C burst
PT2100HP20C_2S 7.4 2100 17 * 34 * 96
PT2100HP20C_3S 11.1 25.5 * 34 * 96
PT2100HP20C_4S 14.8 34 * 34 * 96
PT3200HP20C_2S 7.4 3200 17 * 44 * 125
PT3200HP20C_3S 11.1 25.5 * 44 * 125
PT3200HP20C_4S 14.8 34 * 44 * 125
If you have any question ,do not hesitate to contact with me! |
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vrthai Extreme 3D


Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 188
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:51 pm
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szhilder wrote: | Hi,thank for your interesting in our products.
I try to past into the table including product model ,capacitor,voltage and dimension info but it failed to keep the original document editor pattern.
So the below info seems to be messy. Don't mind.
Model Voltage Capacity Dimension (mm)
(V) (mAh) (T * W *L)
Discharge rate: 8C continuous, 10C burst
PT2000HP8C_2S 7.4 2000 15 * 34 * 96
PT2000HP8C_3S 11.1 22.5 * 34 * 96
PT2000HP8C_4S 14.8 30 * 34 * 96
PT2500HP8C_2S 7.4 2500 14 * 35 * 135
PT2500HP8C_3S 11.1 21 * 35 * 135
Discharge rate: 12C continuous, 15C burst
PT1300HP12C_2S 7.4 1250 16 * 35 * 60
PT1300HP12C_3S 11.1 24 * 35 * 60
PT1550HP12C_2S 7.4 1500 15 * 34 * 80
PT1550HP12C_3S 11.1 22.5 * 34 * 80
PT1900HP12C_2S 7.4 1900 15 * 34 * 96
PT1900HP12C_3S 11.1 22.5 * 34 * 96
PT2200HP12C_2S 7.4 2200 17 * 34 * 96
PT2200HP12C_3S 11.1 25.5 * 34 * 96
PT2200HP12C_4S 14.8 34 * 34 * 96
Discharge rate: 15C continuous, 20C burst
PT1800HP15C_2S 7.4 1800 15 * 34 * 96
PT1800HP15C_3S 11.1 22.5 * 34 * 96
PT1300HP15C_2S 7.4 2100 17 * 34 * 96
PT2100HP15C_3S 11.1 25.5 * 34 * 96
PT2100HP15C_4S 14.8 34 * 34 * 96
Discharge rate: 20C continuous, 25C burst
PT2100HP20C_2S 7.4 2100 17 * 34 * 96
PT2100HP20C_3S 11.1 25.5 * 34 * 96
PT2100HP20C_4S 14.8 34 * 34 * 96
PT3200HP20C_2S 7.4 3200 17 * 44 * 125
PT3200HP20C_3S 11.1 25.5 * 44 * 125
PT3200HP20C_4S 14.8 34 * 44 * 125
If you have any question ,do not hesitate to contact with me! |
I don't get it Can you expalin a bit  |
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