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Highway Hilton
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:06 pm
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OK I want to get into heli flying but I'm wondering the best way to start out. Should I purchase a stand alone simulator package w/controller right out of the gate or should I purchase a heli then get a simulator so I can use the transmitter/controller that came with the bird for practice? Which is a better way to go?
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NMGeezer
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:47 pm
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If I had it all to do over, I would purchase a DX6i or DX7 then BNF versions of my heli's and a good Simulator like Phoenix or Clearview.

That way, as you progress, you will be using the same TX for all of your Heli's and your Sim. You will get familiar with the feel of the TX quicker and it will be cheaper in the long run.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:12 am
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spot on with that statement Geezer
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 5:32 am
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Fully agree with that too.
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NMGeezer
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:14 pm
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An added note, if you do decide on a DX7, do not get the DX7SE. It does not have a trainer port and will not work with a simulator.
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Highway Hilton
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:29 am
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Thanks for the quick resposes and good input guys.
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Highway Hilton
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:44 pm
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I followed your advice and picked up a DX6i transmitter today and downloaded ClearView over the weekend. Unfortunately the local hobby shop did not have the USB cable that I needed to connect to the computer. Does anyone have a source for this cable?
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:03 am
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Thanks for putting your location in your profile.

This is the only U.S. link I have http://www.allerc.com/product_info.php?cPath=91&products_id=2989 Not always available.

This one is good http://www.rc-discount.de/store/product_info.php?products_id=643 but will be more expensive for you.

Hope that helps some.
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oldmanflyer
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:40 am
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Well I finelly got Clearview to work using my new E-sky controller today. Now I can start to pratice flying the trex-450
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Jaydin56
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:19 pm
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Clearview is a decent simulator for learning your muscle movements, but that's about it. I've been using clearview for quite awhile now, a little over a year, and it hasn't at all prepared me for the actual thing. Clearview doesn't accurately simulate the rotor wash, I had to learn how to correct the helicopter skating to the left on lift off on my own (Luckily it only took me five minutes to do so), Clearview is excellent, but not a good substitute for experience in my book
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:12 pm
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Clearview is a decent simulator for learning your muscle movements, but that's about it.

And I don't think that any of us have ever claimed that this is untrue. I certainly haven't! The all important part that simulators play is the muscle coordination. To learn which way the sticks go at all headings and inverted. This without crashing your expensive model to find out.

I have tried many simulators, some very expensive, and have yet to find one which accurately simulates the "Left slide on lift-off". If this cannot be done with sims costing 3 times or more the price of ClearView, I think that it is hard to fault ClearView on this.

There have been many posts on "How to lift off" certainly CrashAgain, DumbThumbs and I have all posted on this.

Jaydin: Check my post on this thread "I could use some advice on electric heli's please". It's listed there to read in a ClearView discussion 5 posts above your last one there.
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pjdog
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:56 am
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Howdy Jaydin56:

I'm wondering if your Clearview properties are set up like mine. When I lift off a single rotor I get lots of left movement. I must put some right aileron and punch some extra motor to adjust the left movement out of the helicopter. Look at your properties for some adjustment.

Clearview has saved me lots of money in helicopter repairs.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:35 am
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What I do is left off with out touching anything and see where the heli go's, then adjust the trim. I'm flying the T-Rex 450 in Clearview and she lefts stright up now after making my adjustments.
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