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Highway Hilton Hopping Maniac

Joined: 29 Apr 2010 Posts: 34 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:06 pm
Post subject: Just starting out and have questions on simulators |
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OK I want to get into heli flying but I'm wondering the best way to start out. Should I purchase a stand alone simulator package w/controller right out of the gate or should I purchase a heli then get a simulator so I can use the transmitter/controller that came with the bird for practice? Which is a better way to go? |
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NMGeezer Extreme 3D


Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 212 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:47 pm
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If I had it all to do over, I would purchase a DX6i or DX7 then BNF versions of my heli's and a good Simulator like Phoenix or Clearview.
That way, as you progress, you will be using the same TX for all of your Heli's and your Sim. You will get familiar with the feel of the TX quicker and it will be cheaper in the long run. |
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oldmanflyer Extreme 3D

Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 135 Location: Deptford, NJ. USA
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:12 am
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spot on with that statement Geezer _________________ Regards,
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tombo242 Extreme 3D


Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 3633 Location: Santo Estêvão, East Algarve, Portugal. 76, but still feels 18.
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 5:32 am
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Fully agree with that too. _________________ Keep Smiling  |
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NMGeezer Extreme 3D


Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 212 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:14 pm
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An added note, if you do decide on a DX7, do not get the DX7SE. It does not have a trainer port and will not work with a simulator. |
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Highway Hilton Hopping Maniac

Joined: 29 Apr 2010 Posts: 34 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:29 am
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Thanks for the quick resposes and good input guys. |
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Highway Hilton Hopping Maniac

Joined: 29 Apr 2010 Posts: 34 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:44 pm
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I followed your advice and picked up a DX6i transmitter today and downloaded ClearView over the weekend. Unfortunately the local hobby shop did not have the USB cable that I needed to connect to the computer. Does anyone have a source for this cable? |
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tombo242 Extreme 3D


Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 3633 Location: Santo Estêvão, East Algarve, Portugal. 76, but still feels 18.
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oldmanflyer Extreme 3D

Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 135 Location: Deptford, NJ. USA
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:40 am
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Well I finelly got Clearview to work using my new E-sky controller today. Now I can start to pratice flying the trex-450 _________________ Regards,
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Jaydin56 Flying Inverted

Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Posts: 53 Location: Pikeville, Kentucky
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:19 pm
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Clearview is a decent simulator for learning your muscle movements, but that's about it. I've been using clearview for quite awhile now, a little over a year, and it hasn't at all prepared me for the actual thing. Clearview doesn't accurately simulate the rotor wash, I had to learn how to correct the helicopter skating to the left on lift off on my own (Luckily it only took me five minutes to do so), Clearview is excellent, but not a good substitute for experience in my book _________________ Walkera 5#4Q3 Airwolf-Retired
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tombo242 Extreme 3D


Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 3633 Location: Santo Estêvão, East Algarve, Portugal. 76, but still feels 18.
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:12 pm
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Jaydin says | Quote: | | Clearview is a decent simulator for learning your muscle movements, but that's about it. |
And I don't think that any of us have ever claimed that this is untrue. I certainly haven't! The all important part that simulators play is the muscle coordination. To learn which way the sticks go at all headings and inverted. This without crashing your expensive model to find out.
I have tried many simulators, some very expensive, and have yet to find one which accurately simulates the "Left slide on lift-off". If this cannot be done with sims costing 3 times or more the price of ClearView, I think that it is hard to fault ClearView on this.
There have been many posts on "How to lift off" certainly CrashAgain, DumbThumbs and I have all posted on this.
Jaydin: Check my post on this thread "I could use some advice on electric heli's please". It's listed there to read in a ClearView discussion 5 posts above your last one there. _________________ Keep Smiling  |
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pjdog Extreme 3D

Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 1732 Location: Hudson, Florida, USA
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:56 am
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Howdy Jaydin56:
I'm wondering if your Clearview properties are set up like mine. When I lift off a single rotor I get lots of left movement. I must put some right aileron and punch some extra motor to adjust the left movement out of the helicopter. Look at your properties for some adjustment.
Clearview has saved me lots of money in helicopter repairs. _________________ RC Submarines (3)
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oldmanflyer Extreme 3D

Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 135 Location: Deptford, NJ. USA
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:35 am
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What I do is left off with out touching anything and see where the heli go's, then adjust the trim. I'm flying the T-Rex 450 in Clearview and she lefts stright up now after making my adjustments. _________________ Regards,
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