Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1101 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:11 am Post subject: SIMS do tell it the way it was !
Hi Guys,
Last weekend practicing nose in, flew the Helicopter back towards myself, basically flew the helicopter almost over myself at a safe height (there on my own, nobody behind me), anyway had to turn my body, took me from nose in to tail in then immediately crashed. Shook my head and thought what the hell happened there ?
Came home and tried the same thing on Clearview, Dam did it again & again, finally worked out loose wire in the brain, when I turned like that Rudder & Elevator part of the brain switched to tail in but Aileron didn't.
Helicopter repaired, brain made soft an malleable with a few wines then Clearview retrained it, try again for real this weekend.
It might be helpful if you could get to do some slope soaring or thermal soaring, landing nose-in is normal, and with no rotor coming at you to think about, you could concentrate on control functions.
Back in the late 1970s, I was slope soaring and this guy Mohair coat binos and camera hung round his neck, came up and started asking questions, I asked him if he did any flying, "I'm only an airline pilot, got me own full sized glider." came the reply, thinking to my self, great! I can make a roll-up and have a quick smoke. So I showed him the transmitter, "This is the rudder and here's the elevator." and handed him the transmitter. He was going great guns as my glider got smaller and smaller, I said best turn and come back. He banked to port and levelled up, but then he found it difficult to orientate the glider and maintain altitude. I recovered it for him and let him have two three more goes, but he still could not get the hang of it.
I've been doing joystick "navigation" on PCs of one kind or another for 30 odd years.......From Elite on the BBC model B, through every MS flightsim released, I still use FSX regularly. My spacial awareness is extremely good. My hand eye coordination is what you'd expect from an art metal worker who has made stuff by hand for Buckingham palace. I spent many years doing 3d design/manufacturing, my brain is wired for 3d stuff.......Flying nose in is a whole new world of "brain Farts" though (thanks for that expression Tom ). That aside, If it was easy I would get bored with it.
What did RC pilots do before sims?.....spent more money I suppose.
Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1101 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:13 am Post subject:
Hi Guys,
Had no problems nose in with Sail Planes or still have no problems Fixed Wing or even FP helicopters, it's only CP and only the Aileron, anyway 20 minutes a morning on the SIM has seemed to improved things, I'm fly again this afternoon I'll let you know how I go.
Joined: 07 Nov 2009 Posts: 115 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:02 am Post subject:
It took me about six months, flying every weekend and practice on sim ocassionally , I can now fly nose in confidently .... It does take a lot of practice (and crashes) to 'recondition' our brain, I think !
I am now learning to do inverse flying. Have stock up lot of parts already prepare for crashes. It' hard.... forward is backward ,....
We built our own Tx & Rx from exWD parts, acorn valves from old U.S. radar sets, wound our own coils (no radio shack or similar then ) only ONE channel just drove the rudder. Engine was diesel no glow motors and only your finger to start it, it ran until the fuel ran out (if you didn't crash first,) the heavy 90V HT batteries made a mess of a balsa fuse in a bad landing.
Neither of these could be used on helis though. My early 50's heli was free flight, balsa & tissue with a rubber powered rotor. Powered upward, autorotated down. Never needed fuel or charging, just new rubber in the spring.
When I began flying RC back in the early 1970s, I didn't have a computer or flight sim, so used to practised in real time with my kamco kadet high wing trainer powered by a 0.19 Enya glow motor, with just rudder, elevator, and throttle control. Never flew via bubby-box, just had an experienced RC pilot just talk me through take-off and landing once.''
I only pranged it twice. First time when I'd added ailerons, up to that point I had been flying mode 2. Someone advised changing to mode 3, '' first time out on landing instinctively made corrections with left stick plane went knife-edge and the wing tip made contact with the runway then the spinner, and I changed back to mode 2. Only superficial damage. Second time total write-off unrecoverable power dive straight into the ground.''
Then when I began slope soaring with my Groupner Mosquito, which I still have, that's when I really learnt how to fly.
I still don't have a sim, I lernt to fly helis by setting-up and testing my Walkera Dragonfly 36s after rebuilt....after rebuild..after....''
Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 4718 Location: Santo Estêvão, East Algarve, Portugal. Now 82, but still feels 22.
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:25 am Post subject:
Good find there Keith, brings back lots of memories. Flew my first real model in 1948.
Love the control line Lancaster ! I still remember my first flight with a 'Stunt Queen' on 25' (7.5m) lines. Put a different meaning on "Taking it for a spin" .
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