Transitioning to collective pitch

Jake13 · Charging Joined: 30 Jun 2012 Posts: 1

I have had a 120 sr for a while and I think it is time to move up to a collective pitch. I am dead set on blade helis. I can't deside between the sr, mcp x, 130 x, or go to the blade 450. I have heard good things about all of them. Please help me decide.

nick_onelove · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:28 pm Post subject:

Whatever you do, avoid the SR at all costs.

I threw in my vote for the mCP X, but if you can afford it don't be afraid of the Blade 450.

The 130 X is as of yet unproven, especially for a beginner. Mine just shipped yesterday, I'm super excited. Very Happy

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admiral · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:48 pm Post subject:

Hi Jake13,

Nick is spot on with that advise, I have had an SR, don't touch it, it is the only Blade that I recommend against, love the mCP x but don't recommend it for you first CP heli it can be as docile as a lamb but when it gets away it is so quick, but it is very rugged and can take a bid of punishment. The 450 reacts more predictably, after starting small and working my way up I really wish that I'd started at 400/450 and worked my way down with CP, the bigger you get the easier they are. The down side to that they are more expensive to repair.
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tombo242 · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject:

Darned good advice above, I went for the 450 as the bigger ones are definately easier to fly. More expensive to repair - Yes! However, in the long run you may well have to repair it a lot less and being bigger it's easier to work on anyway.

Get the 450 and keep smiling!

Tom.
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pjdog · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject:

There is only one blade collective pitch helicopter. That's the 450. Use to be the B400 but the B400 is out of production being replaced with the B450.

For the monet you just can't beat a Blade B450.

My two cents worth.

Jack

chopper54 · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: post subject

I would go with the 450 3d. Its a great way to get started and good value for money. The mcx-p is fantastic fun but very fast for a beginner. The sr is ok when matched to a decent transmitter but the one that comes with it is rubbish. I am really looking forward to getting the 130-x. i reckon this will be a cracker.

Flyby · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:51 am Post subject:

Try to confuse things a bit more.....about the new 300X?
Albeit a bit smaller than a 450, with the proven flybarless technology of BeastX should be a very stable heli, with dedicated tail servo, easy to repair and set up and parts a quite cheap.
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Burgess · Extreme 3D Joined: 27 Mar 2012 Posts: 321 Location: Wales

The Hobbyking 450 is an inexpensive 3D helicopter:-

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__10811__HK450_CCPM_3D_Helicopter_Kit_Align_T_rex_Compat_Ver_2.html

and the Radiolink 2.4ghz 6channel radio also inexpensive. I have one, works great.
The combination would make a cost effective beginning to CCPM, and it's easily set-up to give a tame response until you get to grips with how they fly.

Also the Storm 430

http://www.helipal.com/storm-430-semi-metal-edition-without-transmitter-and-receiver.html

all you need is radio kit and LiPO

Burgess

crash dummy · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject:

I went through this just a couple of weeks ago and decided on a bnf mcpx v2, I fly it with a dx8 and adjusted my aileron and elevator travel adjustments to just 35% with no expo, and 75% pitch, instead of using dual rates and accidentally knocking a DR switch resulting in a sudden surge of travel. I also dumbed the pitch curve right down so I have no negative pitch, for example I have my pitch curves set at 50-60-65-70-80 and use a linear throttle curve in normal mode but a 100-90-80-90-100 in F1 mode. I also set my pitch curve to 50% flat in throttle hold. So far I have had 1 and a half hours of steady tail in hover in my small kitchen its not as easy as an msr but its pretty close as I get better I will add a touch more travel adjust, I am thinking 5% each week as it becomes easier
I figure this tiny heli is a valuable learning aid worth its price 2 or 3 times over in 450 repairs anyway!
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admiral · Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:42 am Post subject:

I agree the mCP X is great to practicing the Hover, but from somebody transitioning to CP, who is reasonably new to helicopters, it gets away easily and when it does is too quick, the 450 size is more predictable.

I'm trying to fly inverted at the moment with my mCP X something I wouldn't try with the 450, but the mCP X is ideal, if/when it goes pear shaped the damage is minimal if any.

A great learning tool just not for beginner IMHO.
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