Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1101 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:43 am Post subject:
tombo242 wrote:
With the control you show in the vid Gary, I would say dump the strings and training gear. You don't need them and the heli would fly much better.
Go for it!
Tom.
I agree with Thombo, get rid of all the training gear, it's now inhibiting your progress, find a bigger area and go for it, and yes you will probably break stuff but that is how you push the envelope.
Your progressing a lot quicker than I did, your doing great.
Still on the string with training gear and in the garage, I haven't had a chance to try outside without the string, this seems like the next logical step.
I've been having fun on HelisimRC with some orientation practice. I can hover reliable with the tail in, nice and steady moving between the squares and landing. So now I've set the rudder trim so the heli rotates constantly.....I can keep it in the air but not quite in one spot , getting better though.
A couple of quick questions:
What effect does the training gear on flight handling apart from extra weight? some sort of pendulum effect I would guess.....but as I say, I'm guessing.
What effect does rotor wash have when hovering in a confined space or near a wall?
Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 4718 Location: Santo Estêvão, East Algarve, Portugal. Now 82, but still feels 22.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:01 am Post subject:
G.K. wrote:
What effect does the training gear on flight handling apart from extra weight? some sort of pendulum effect I would guess.....but as I say, I'm guessing.
What effect does rotor wash have when hovering in a confined space or near a wall?
Training gear alters the whole flight charactaristics, safer - well maybe - but not good for flying. Lose it A.S.A.P.
Near a wall the rotor wash tends to pull you into it. Not good, so beware!
Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1101 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:08 am Post subject:
G.K. wrote:
What effect does the training gear on flight handling apart from extra weight? some sort of pendulum effect I would guess.....but as I say, I'm guessing.
What effect does rotor wash have when hovering in a confined space or near a wall?
Hi G.K.
The training gear balls start vibrating up and down in unison make the helicopter dam hard to fly, quick answer either loose them all together or at least shorten them by at least half.
Hovering near anything varies the flow of air from the Rotors creating unpredictable turbulence, a good demo of this is if you fly a small indoor helicopter try flying in level to land on a coffee table, as the front of the rotor disk starts to get ground effect from the edge of the coffee table the Helicopter becomes very unstable.
Yes, I have done RC sailing many moons ago, loads of time to react. Done big boat sailing to, out of Eastbourne Sovereign harbour, although good fun it's not may favourite sort of sailing.
This is one of the things we really enjoy doing together
This is us in Chichester Harbour, it isn't a race although dinghy racing is what we normally do.
Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 4718 Location: Santo Estêvão, East Algarve, Portugal. Now 82, but still feels 22.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject:
When I lived in Cornwall, I kept my boat (4 berth yacht) in Mylor marina, Falmouth Roads. Sold it when I moved to the Algarve. Decided £500 a trip (total anual cost+depreciation/no of trips) was not feasible on my pension, us OAPs have to be a bit careful sometimes! So, now it's just RC around my pool with the little cat. Fun but not the same.
In the past I sailed in the South China Sea, North Sea, Atlantic North & South and the Gulf (before troubles broke out). Never really sailed dingies at all.
OK, so I've got rid of the string and ventured outside. I'm fortunate that we have a 5.5 acre private garden directly over the road, pick the right time of day and there's no one in there......great for hover practise but none of the lawns are really big enough to for a novice to free fly.
One issue I have is the "clicky" nature of the joysticks, particularly the throttle. One click is not enough to get out of ground effect the next click and it climbs at about a foot a second, as seen in this video. I suppose that's down to the cheap e-sky transmitter although any suggestions on that problem would be appreciated.
Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 4718 Location: Santo Estêvão, East Algarve, Portugal. Now 82, but still feels 22.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:52 am Post subject:
Hi Gary,
Certainly time to lose the trainers that flying is as good as it can get with them fitted, now it's time to move on. Even doing the same without the trainers would be good. Just hold an eye-level hover in front of you, a full battery without touching the ground or moving out of a 2M (2.2yd) cube is challenge enough.
Re the Tx:
That ratchet is for fixed wing, get rid of it. Inside the Tx is a bar pressing on a serrated edge of the throttle stick. Sometimes you can just reverse the bar to give a smooth response, sometimes you have to file off the teeth of the ratchet. Either way, for helis, that ratchet has to go. Your throttle should move smoothly from low to high and stop in any position. NO RATCHET ALLOWED.
(I fly my helis and fixed wings without the ratchet and have NEVER found it on a real aircrafts throttle, just a friction control.)
Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1101 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:58 am Post subject:
Congratulations G.K.
You are ready, loose the training gear, it will amaze you how much easier it is to fly and more responsive.
Not sure about your Tx but on most of them you can remove the ratchet so that there are no notches, takes about 2 minutes and much more suited to fly helicopters where you are on the throttle constantly.
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